Posts by Apostate Kate

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Deuteronomy 6:4 and Proverbs 4:18

by I.Wonder in

19 years ago

listen, o israel: jehovah our god is one jehovah.. hi everyone!!

i was reading this yesterday during the public talk.

why does it say jehovah our god is one jehovah and not jehovah our god is one god?

19 years ago

Apostate Kate 19 years ago

(Of course this has nothing to do with the contextual meaning of Proverbs 4:18, re: the present topic.)

..lol..when you have ADD ...he wrote about the song they sang and my mind went off topic

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Deuteronomy 6:4 and Proverbs 4:18

by I.Wonder in

19 years ago

listen, o israel: jehovah our god is one jehovah.. hi everyone!!

i was reading this yesterday during the public talk.

why does it say jehovah our god is one jehovah and not jehovah our god is one god?

19 years ago

Apostate Kate 19 years ago

Narkissos I try so hard to understand your posts. I know you are a veritable encyclopedia of knowledge but it is so hard for me to keep up with you.

Thank you for sharing so much with us, I'm going to try to focus

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The Study of Light

by Apostate Kate in

19 years ago

recently i did some research on "light".

it fascinated me that there are several greek words used but merely the one in english.. jwv phos foce from an obsolete phao (to shine or make manifest, especially by rays; compare 5316, 5346); luminousness (in the widest application, natural or artificial, abstract or concrete, literal or figurative):--fire, light.. matthew 4:16-17 the people who sat in darkness saw a great light, to those who sat in the region and shadow of death, to them light has dawned.

" from that time, jesus began to preach, and to say, "repent!

19 years ago

Apostate Kate 19 years ago

Recently I did some research on "light". It fascinated me that there are several Greek words used but merely the one in English.

jwV phos foce from an obsolete phao (to shine or make manifest, especially by rays; compare 5316, 5346); luminousness (in the widest application, natural or artificial, abstract or concrete, literal or figurative):--fire, light.
Matthew 4:16-17 The people who sat in darkness saw a great light, To those who sat in the region and shadow of death, To them light has dawned." From that time, Jesus began to preach, and to say, "Repent! For the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand."

kaiw kaio kah'-yoapparently a primary verb; to set on fire, i.e. kindle or
(by implication) consume:--burn, light.
Matthew 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

lucnoV luchnos lookh'-nos a portable lamp or other illuminator (literally or figuratively):--candle, light.Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

elajroV elaphros el-af-ros'; light, i.e. easy:--light. Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

amalew ameleo am-el-eh'-o; to be careless of:--make light of, neglect, be negligent, no regard.Matthew 22:5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

jeggoV pheggos feng'-gos probably akin to the base of 5457 (compare 5350); brilliancy:--light.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

epijainw epiphaino ep-ee-fah'-ee-no; to shine upon, i.e. become (literally) visible or (figuratively) known:--appear, give light.Luke 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

apokaluqiV apokalupsis ap-ok-al'-oop-sis ; disclosure:--appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation Luke 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. This is as close as I can find to "new light" and this light is the revelation of Jesus to the world.

jwteinoV photeinos fo-ti-nos ; lustrous, i.e. transparent or well-illuminated (figuratively):--bright, full of light.Luke 11:36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

John 1:4-5 In him was life; and the life was the light (phos)of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

So where do the Bethel boys get "new light" from?

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Deuteronomy 6:4 and Proverbs 4:18

by I.Wonder in

19 years ago

listen, o israel: jehovah our god is one jehovah.. hi everyone!!

i was reading this yesterday during the public talk.

why does it say jehovah our god is one jehovah and not jehovah our god is one god?

19 years ago

Apostate Kate 19 years ago

Narkisso is there anywhere in the Bible to your knowledge that can be used to justify the doctrine that there was information left to be revealed after the crucifixion of Christ? (new light)

We know that the "Comforter" was to come and would be revealed at Pentecost, but other than that...

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Acts 1:24 - Kurios

by TheListener in

19 years ago

acts 1:24 in the nas reads "and they prayed and said, "you, lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two you have chosen".

the nwt says jehovah instead of lord.. the greek word translated lord or jesus (in some translations) or as jehovah by the wts is kurios.. can someone with the wts cd at hand tell me which manuscripts they state support this rendering?.

i have read the context and quite frankly it makes sense that it was jesus who they were talking to.

19 years ago

Apostate Kate 19 years ago

That the early christians didn't have the concept of the trinity.

I'm not so sure about that. By believing that Jesus was worthy of worship, they were stating that they believed that Jesus was devine, Deity.

John 20:28 And <kai> Thomas <Thomas> answered <apokrinomai> and <kai> said <epo> unto him <autos>, My <mou> Lord <kurios> and <kai> my <mou> God <theos>.

Acts 7:59 And <kai> they stoned <lithoboleo> Stephen <Stephanos>, calling upon <epikaleomai> God, and <kai> saying <lego>, Lord <kurios> Jesus <Iesous>, receive <dechomai> my <mou> spirit <pneuma>.

2 Timothy 1:2 To Timothy <Timotheos>, my dearly beloved <agapetos> son <teknon>: Grace <charis>, mercy <eleos>, and peace <eirene>, from <apo> God <theos> the Father <pater> and <kai> Christ <Christos> Jesus <Iesous> our <hemon> Lord <kurios>.

Matthew 2:2 Saying <lego>, Where <pou> is <esti> he that is born <tikto> King <basileus> of the Jews <Ioudaios>? for <gar> we have seen <eido> his <autos> star <aster> in <en> the east <anatole>, and <kai> are come <erchomai> to worship <proskuneo> him <autos>.

Of course the Bethel boys say that was not actually worship but a type of courtsey. If that were true the same word would not have been used here;

Satan to Jesus; Matthew 4:9 And <kai> saith <lego> unto him <autos>, All <pas> these things <tauta> will I give <didomi> thee <soi>, if <ean> thou wilt fall down <pipto> and worship <proskuneo> me <moi>.

So even though the early Christians did not use the term Trinity to describe the Godhead, they did believe in the Deity of Jesus. To be called the "son" of something in Hebrew was to be called that thing. Jesus was called son of God, and son of man.

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